Wednesday, August 21, 2013

Israel and US opposition to democracy in Egypt

This should not be a controversial proposition. The United States supported the Mubarak dictatorship for 30 years because of Israel. The United States right now supports dictatorships in its other effective colonies of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Kuwait, Bahrain, Yemen and others because of Israel. Israel is why the United States is the most vigorous adversary of democracy outside of its borders in the world. Israel is why the United States today supports the dictatorship in Egypt which took power from an legitimately and fairly elected government.

How do we know that Israel is why the United States supported the Mubarak dictatorship? Because that's what Barack Obama and Joe Biden said:

Biden: Mubarak Is Not a Dictator, But People Have a Right to Protest
(PBS Newshour, January 27, 2011)

JIM LEHRER: The word -- the word to describe the leadership of Mubarak and Egypt and also in Tunisia before was dictator. Should Mubarak be seen as a dictator?

JOE BIDEN: Look, Mubarak has been an ally of ours in a number of things and he's been very responsible on, relative to geopolitical interests in the region: Middle East peace efforts, the actions Egypt has taken relative to normalizing the relationship with Israel.

And I think that it would be -- I would not refer to him as a dictator.

Obama interview: the transcript
(BBC World Service, June 2, 2009)
Justin Webb: Do you regard President Mubarak as an authoritarian ruler?

President Obama: No, I tend not to use labels for folks. I haven't met him. I've spoken to him on the phone.

He has been a stalwart ally in many respects, to the United States. He has sustained peace with Israel, which is a very difficult thing to do in that region.

But he has never resorted to, you know, unnecessary demagoging of the issue, and has tried to maintain that relationship. So I think he has been a force for stability. And good in the region. Obviously, there have been criticisms of the manner in which politics operates in Egypt.

And, as I said before, the United States' job is not to lecture, but to encourage, to lift up what we consider to be the values that ultimately will work - not just for our country, but for the aspirations of a lot of people.

It is also openly known that while Egypt's elected commander in chief did not have direct relations with Israel, the general who led the coup against him did:
Israel Sees a Chance for More Reliable Ties With Egypt and a Weakening of Hamas
(New York Times, July 6, 2013)
While Mr. Morsi served as head of state, Israel’s only line of communication with Cairo was through the Egyptian military and security establishment, which is now controlling Egypt’s political process. Perhaps more reassuring to Israel is the role of Gen. Abdul-Fattah el-Sisi, the top commander who led the move to depose Mr. Morsi.

General Sisi is well known in Israel’s defense establishment from his past roles in military intelligence and in northern Sinai. An Israeli expert said that even after Mr. Morsi appointed General Sisi as his defense minister, the general’s office continued to communicate and coordinate directly with Israel. 
Turkey's Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said that Israel is behind the US and Western idea that it is not democracy for a party that wins an election to take power:

Erdoğan suggests Israel behind coup in Egypt, has evidence
(Today's Zaman, August 20, 2013)

"What is said about Egypt? That democracy is not the ballot box. Who is behind this? Israel is. We have the evidence in our hands," Erdoğan said. "That's exactly what happened."
He's mostly right about that. The idea that winning elections is not democracy is wrong but also uniquely applied to Israel's region. That idea seems to be used for one reason only, for Westerners to justify denying the power to set and execute policy to officials who are accountable to voters in Israel's region. In Israel's region, militaries tied and accountable to the US have to remove elected officials to protect democracy, and secular rights. And while they are at it, they can also continue to cooperate with Israel as directed by their US embassies and military bases without any oversight from the voters of their countries.

Did the Mossad send a coup plan to Abdel Fattah el-Sisi from its headquarters in Tel Aviv which Sisi then executed? I would guess not. Did US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel know about and approve the operation that led to the coup in advance, supporting it ultimately because of it offers strategic benefits to Israel? I would guess so. 60 years later, the US admits its role in the coup against an legitimate elected government in Iran. The US is far more widely and closely involved with Egypt's military in 2013 than it was in Iran in 1953. Maybe the extent of Hagel's knowledge of and involvement in this coup in Egypt will be revealed later.

6 comments:

lidia said...

I could say it now, not waiting for 60 years, that "the extent of Hagel's knowledge of and involvement in this coup in Egypt" was about 200% (100% for knowing and 100% for ordering it)
So great is the love and support for Egyptian democracy by USA liberals, that Cole now hosting the article with a very bold question :Must US Aid to Egypt be Cut Off?
The question is unanswered, by the way, but it is still worse reading. The so-called "aid" is but a stipend to generals-puppets for helping insure Zionist colonialism.
Of course, Cole is much less cautious about USA "help" to topple governments who displease USA and Zionists than about maybe do something about USA and Zionist puppet regimes - no matter how murderous and undemocratic. Cole is a great example of what USA liberal politics is about.

Slim said...

>Of course, Cole is much less cautious about USA "help" to topple governments who displease USA and Zionists than about maybe do something about USA and Zionist puppet regimes - no matter how murderous and undemocratic. Cole is a great example of what USA liberal politics is about.


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Cole is clearly against actions against places such as iran and syria.

finefellow said...

The criticism isnt accurate, cole is highly critical of nay us plans to go against countries such as iran or syria.

slmm said...

Cole is highly critical of us sponsored states such as israel, he is also against taking out places such as iran.

Well said...

Shame this site is no longer posting, it was nice to have something to laugh at.

CX said...

Holy crap, ive never seen a mod get his ass handed to him so much, he couldnt even handle basic english???